Stubborn Persistent Illusions
Do Make Say Think - Stubborn Persistent Illusions
Critic Score
Based on 8 reviews
2017 Ratings: #66 / 668
User Score
Based on 63 ratings
2017 Ratings: #63
May 19, 2017 / Release Date
LP / Format
Constellation / Label
Post-Rock / Genres
Your Review



Stubborn Persistent Illusions can seem daunting with its hour-long runtime, but it's a worthy monolith that can be explored on the listener's own terms.

The Line of Best Fit

Musical statements like this, able to carry so much weight yet move so freely, and all without saying a word, are few and far between.

The Skinny

Do Make Say Think have always found new and exciting ways to blend their jazzy time signatures with chamber orchestral brilliance, and their latest is no different in a long line of exemplary releases from the band.


DMST seem to be reveling in the splendor of life, and sound determined to express joy and wonder even if hopelessness and futility are the easier options. This is an utterly triumphant, uplifting album.

Drowned in Sound

It really is a rarity to find artists this far into their career, and after such a sustained break, sound so fresh and positive.

The 405

DMST’s first new album since 2009, Stubborn Persistent Illusions, is excellent in a different way. Gone are the rustic looking, red wine-tasting moments of their 00s output. This is music for nature.


It’s the well-oiled sound of a band pushing the boundaries of a genre littered with tropes, without succumbing to any of them.

More often than not, the music feels like a cool breeze at dusk after a hot sunny day—the kind of thing that can recharge you and make you look forward to what lies ahead before you go to sleep.
Jun 25, 2017
Part of me wanted to like this album because hey, new Canadian post-rock is never a bad thing, but I just cannot get into this album because of how cliché it is. It evokes all of these post-rock tropes and sounds that really take away the sense of surprise and emotion that a good post-rock album should have, honestly. The final product is a bland mixture of post-rock sounds, and it's an ultimately predictable album.
Jan 10, 2018
Nov 29, 2017
I had never previously listened to Do Make Say Think & only picked this album up because of the artwork. When it came to playing it, the first track ‘War on Torpor‘ nearly took my head off, explosive doesn’t quite cut it. This album isn’t going to be for everyone, certainly not for the music tourists, looking for a quick fix of something catchy. You’ll need to put an evening aside perhaps, but the journey Stubborn Persistent Illusions will take you on is so so ... read more
Aug 6, 2017
I enjoyed the album enough to purchase it. On repeated listenings, some song scores elevated, while others dropped, as noted at the end of some comments.

BEST: 2, 4, 5, 6, 9

01. War on Torpor – 7.5 – On first blush, this is awesome. I do not know if this is math rock, or merely the fact that I believe two different rhythms are employed at the same time, but it confused my ears for a few moments before I severely started liking it. Formerly, a nine.
02. Horripilation – 8 ... read more
Aug 6, 2017
I love post-anything, and this post-rock album is the best I’ve heard in a while. It was moving, and can be soothing or epic at times. It also does song-length crescendos quite well. It doesn’t stray from the typical post-rock formula though, and it’s something that could be heard on a number of other post-rock artists’ material. I do love most of the guitar parts though, they were definitely a stand-out.

Best Tracks: Horripilation (2), Murder of Thoughts (3), Bound ... read more
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Added on: March 9, 2017