I thought I'd never say this, but maybe Cyr is worst than Zeitgeist????? At least that 2007 album has a couple of really nice tracks and is some 20 minutes shorter that this bloated bore. To be honest, I do appreciate the Pumpkins' (Corgan's) ambition to return to double albums, especially with a sound not immediately associated with the band. However, I do wish that same conceptual ambition had translated into more exciting music. As it is, most of the tracks are too similar to make its 72 minutes even remotely engaging. Among its 20 tracks, there's neither a slam dunk success nor a complete disaster - everything is mostly flat. I didn't hate Cyr; I was completely indifferent to it.