I grew up listening to Staind's post grunge later stuff on the radio so the first time I heard this it caught me off guard insanely. Honestly this album is way darker than tormented and does it way better. The members are way better and Aaron's voice is better too. I love the riffs on this album. They are kinda similar but they're all extremely aggressive. Overall this is a dark ass experience and one of my favorite nu metal albums.