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4d
Still, Sora doesn't know what the fuck a John Zorn is
2w
I think this was the biggest AOTY user battle since last May when those two blokes were arguing about how to like the Billy Woods album the right way (after both giving it a 100/100). Crazy that was a year ago. Anyway, @PinkEel the ai accusations are dubious as hell but like the person below me said sharing the files ain't a bad idea (if that doesn't incur any problems)
4w
AI accusers are just as insufferable and delusional as actual AI prompters.
1mo
What kinda Mossad-level AI system do these people think generated this album 😭😭 we KNOW what AI music sounds like and it is NOT this
1mo
do people still think this is AI?
1mo
ok, im 100% convinced that this is AI. dude has Trump level of excuses and an army of goons. The video "proof" made me even more suspicious. what do you mean you can't show the midi for the PMS? the one thing that could prove that these sounds are not AI generated? + the fact that dude is studying engineering (and jerking off about how hard it is and anyone who knows what he's studying knows how hard it is etc etc) makes me only believe that he knows how to work these AI gen models.
1mo
It sucks that we can’t even trust shit anymore
1mo
Built with AI, this album feels like a time capsule from the earliest days of machine-made music. It’s genuinely shocking how good it sounds—lush, confident, and strange. The whole project is surreal, like hearing the future imagined before it knew itself.
1mo
pink eel killed my grandma and used ai to blow up earth everyone
2mo
Try suno and you’ll see
2mo
These AI checkers literally say not to use it to accuse people
2mo
this is NOT ai bro ai would not be making something this good ✌️

also ai checkers are unreliable and the website lingo5up used literally says that and tells the users to not use it to accuse people
2mo
Also, @PinkEel, if you actually care as much about music as you claim, relieve people from the insecurity whether they are enjoying the work of an AI or whether this has artistic meaning by being produced through the intentional decisions of a talented human. I am not saying this is AI, but you are acting suspiciously, since if you had actually produced this yourself, it would be a matter of minutes to just prove this once and for all by showing the detailed project files (not the bit in the video, that doesn’t prove anything since you don’t show individual tracks and it could just as well be a file you got from AI and dragged into production software), or by for example showing how you created a sound that let people think this was fake.
2mo
I want to give my opinion on this mess of a discussion, as someone who has just been observing it semi-regularly for the past weeks.

It is insane to me, how a small group of people can shift a discussion to look as one-sided as this one (if you just look at the majority of the comments of e.g. the last week in this section here as a clueless outsider) just by being loud and reinforcing each other, replying to each other, repeating empty statements over and over again and making it seem like they are a living part of a real discussion, when in reality they are just acting up a facade, not even being close to engaging in any meaningful way.
2mo
This is not an AI-generated project
2mo
BTS army do this one next
2mo
the video he gave has a recording of some of his songs in ableton its towards the end of the video
2mo
that response was not good i still think its ai
2mo
That was lame 😭
2mo
this might be the single most embarrassing situation on this site for everyone involved
2mo
@crackgoonjesus is this ai you're the only reputable source i know
2mo
now that the AI allegations are over I can say item zero is lowk more interesting this kinda drags on
2mo
Can't believe they ai generated a statement video too smh
2mo
Midi is not AI, and “proof” given by an AI music checker powered by AI doesn’t make it AI either. Whatever 12 year old bumwipe made these allegations can screw off
2mo
these allegations were deadass the dumbest shit ever people need to get a grip
2mo
its funny
2mo
i kinda miss rob locking comments sections whenever there's a semblance of negativity
2mo
what tf is a gen chatter
2mo
this whole ai argument is just stupid. the fact that everyone ran this narrative due to one dude posting about an ai test result which are known to be unreliable is baffling. its like people on this site cannot think for themselves or something
2mo
eel fan discord server lol: https://discord.gg/6tJTJ5FwMm
2mo
notice how the eel shooters and opps are radio silent lol
2mo
statement seemed reasonable to me, though again I think you'd do most to quash it with even a fraction of visual evidence of an Ableton session
2mo
This album might be eel generated… idk…
2mo
statement

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hoIZdZ_2rjT-7IGnZZVeZ3D0UvjPzHF3_tKc3yP-dAA/edit?usp=sharing

imma be posting this here often bc mfs are trynna bury it
genuinely js immature grow up
2mo
I don’t know how to feel about this lp, in some ways it’s really great and fun and really original. I like the sound quite a lot. But I don’t want to get attached to something that turns out to be ai. Just ai music is never this good.
2mo
notice how this is dead load by eel???
2mo
hey guys
2mo
Damn i was actually kinda interested in listening to this a bit ago lmao
2mo
proof that ai can make better art than humoids. check mate liberals.
2mo
robin callaway predicted this (daycore)
2mo
robin callaway predicted this (nightcore)
2mo
tested the AI song checker used as "proof" on the review with an early AI song (that somebody I follow gave a 90+ for whatever reason, lmao) and it said it was human

so not a trustworthy source y'all
2mo
maybe the real AI were the people we met on the road?
2mo
Ai or not, the artist is sending their fans to make accounts knowing they will get high ratings
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